Remos Still Climbing

Another company that did a great job getting me excited for the Sport Aviation Expo was Remos Aircraft. They contacted me weeks before show to invite me to a dinner at which they were going to make a big announcement. Unfortunately, I didn't make it down to the show in time for dinner, but I did get to talk with Remos' David Gustafson on Saturday. He was kind enough to fill me in on the release of their 2009 Remos GX models and show them off to me. I was very impressed.

Remos has been a growing force in the LSA market. Their G3 is a great plane and the new GX model just took it another step. The G3 garnered some impressive celebrity endorsement and Remos actually took the lead in LSA sales last year. That's no small feat...Flight Design's CT is a great aircraft that has ruled the market from the beginning. Remos had one of the larger and more expensive displays at the Expo this year; a sign that I regard at least in some part as a testament to their success. I'm very happy to see another light sport aircraft becoming widely successful and I hope this will heat up some competition and benefit all us pilots.

Remos' success isn't an accident; they're a smart company in a growing market. They offer planes with many important features. They're sturdy without sacrificing anything in form and beauty. They have great visibility and offer the highest useful load of any LSA on the market. Every time I look at them, I am reminded that their aircraft have a level of fit and finish that some say is lacking in the rest of the LSA market. With a new paint scheme and luxury leather seats to go along this year's other improvements, the GX is a plane that most pilots would be proud to use as a luxury cruiser.

For me though, the icing on the cake for the GX is that its wings are designed to fold for storage. I pay about $200 a month for my hangar at a small airport. I bet those of you in big cities or on the coasts just choked on your coffee and wish you could find a hanger for twice that much (if you can even find one available.) For a Remos owner these problems have the potential to disappear. With its wings folded, a GX is small enough to fit in a garage, storage shed or a tiny corner of someone else's hangar. Or, be like a glider pilot and keep your plane in a trailer. You can park it next to your house and drive it to the airport or park the trailer next to the FBO in that big grassy field that nobody ever uses. Remos purposely made the process of unfolding the wings quick and straightforward. The GX's Rotax engine burns 4 or 5 gallons per hour. Imagine how many more hours you could afford to fly that plane if you could eliminate the cost of a hangar lease!

One of the markets that Remos has been competing in is flight training. Their main LSA competitors are likely the Flight Design CT and Cessna Skycatcher. I have nothing against the SkyCatcher. It looks like a great plane and has a pedigree that speaks for itself. I think it will be a powerhouse in the training market just like the C-150/152 have always been. That being said, Remos' aircraft has over 200 pounds more useful load than the SkyCatcher. That's the difference between having to fly min fuel all the time in order to fit an instructor in the plane and flying a whole day of flight training (with an instructor) without having to refuel. That's also the difference between a plane that will be a great short-legged trainer and a plane that can be doing training one minute and take off for a long cross country the next.

Remos' 2009 GX models come in 3 flavors. The first, called the Explorer, comes without wheel pants and has conventional "steam" gauges. It's targeted at the flight training and backcountry flying markets. (Oversized wheels are an option.) Their Aviator I and Aviator II models trade steam gauges for Dynon EFIS displays and other features. The Aviator I is the mid range product, and the Aviator II is the top-end product with standard wheel pants, full EFIS, a new 3 blade prop standard (it's optional for the other models), and more. The avionics wouldn't need much to make it an IFR airplane either. Though the Explorer model is officially the one intended for soft field operations, I think the the Aviator models would do just fine for a day trip to the golf course.

I'm sad to mention that at the conclusion of the Expo, one of Remos' planes crashed and the pilot was killed. We at AviationBull express our sympathy to the friends of and family of the pilot. It was a tragic accident, but I have no reason to think it reflects on Remos' aircraft. I expect that we will hear a lot more exciting news about Remos this year. If you're looking to do some economical and fun flight training, you might end up flying one of the growing number of G3s and GXs being used for training. If you're looking for a plane that will be great for fun, travel and economical to store and operate you should definitely take a look at these aircraft.

For what it's worth, my father-in-law was at the show with me. He flew for the Air Force and retired as a 777 captain. He cruised the entire show and said that the Remos GX was one of his favorites. Now I just need to convince him that it'd be much easier to come visit his daughter if he owned one...

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Remos GX

I am a novice pilot, other than flying with my dad in his Cessena 182 to such places as Haiti when I was kid and my dad was flying as member of the mission's group the "Flying Physicians" as a orthopedic surgeon.

I have been working in Denver for the last several months & started flying LSA and train in a Remos GX. I have found this to be an absolute pleasure due to the fun & cost, but would like to get the take from some experienced pilots.
Thanks.

Nothing to get excited about - KMART should sell this plane

This plane is nothing to get excited about - it should be sold in a Kmart as a toy. Construction is poor, tire life is short, the door securing system for the Remos GX is laughable. The reason this plane is an LSA is that it never could never pass the tests required of standard certified aircraft. Save your bucks and buy a real plane.

KMart comment

Your'e an idiot. Construction is German engineered. The plane has removable doors and is awesome to fly without them. Too bad you can't afford one :-)

You are an Idiot . Have you

You are an Idiot . Have you piloted the remos or are you even a pilot?

Obviously, you have no idea

Obviously, you have no idea what you're talking about or your your an idiot. The Remos is a remarkable aircraft, it outpreforms my 172s, and has quickly become the training plane of choise amongst my instructor staff. I've personally have put it through the ringer, trying to find flaws in it, and I simply can't. People who don't know anything about aircrafts should just keep thier posts to themselves.

REMOS Lease

Anybody know what the going lease rate is for an Aviator II

I love this models the design

I love this models the design is impressive, even with the opacity of this accident, they still doing great jobs.
agrandar pene

wow!!

I have never heard of the G3S and GXS aircraft so this is new to me for what I readed in your blog I think is so cool just have one like you said to go visit you family specialy if you can learn the quick to use it... cool!!! I will look more into it!!!

REMOS Accident

Actually it was the passenger, not the pilot, who died in the accident. The following information, sent out as a press release will shed some light on the crash:

NTSB RELEASES PRELIMINARY REPORT ON REMOS ACCIDENT

Sebring, FL – On January 25th a REMOS GX Aircraft crashed shortly after takeoff, resulting in one fatality and serious injuries to the pilot. The NTSB investigated the accident.
Todd Gunther, NTSB Investigator in Charge, has now released a Preliminary Report on the accident. In his findings, Gunther established control continuity to the rudder, elevator and right wing, however, “control continuity could not be established to the left aileron.”
The left wing had been folded the night before the flight and was extended just prior to takeoff. It appears that the left aileron quick fastener was not secured during takeoff.
Following the initial investigation, REMOS Aircraft issued a Mandatory Safety Directive on January 31st, titled “Inspection of Quick Fasteners on Control System”. The document was distributed to all REMOS owners. The Safety Directive contains illustrated directions for the proper method of securing the aileron controls when extending the wings. It provides replacement pages for the POH with emboldened sections for checking control continuity. It also provides additional placarding to be positioned on the instrument panel, port and starboard sides of the cabin and on the tail cone. The placards prompt additional pre-flight checks for control quick fasteners.
“We have issued this mandatory safety directive to assure that all pre-flight procedures are followed with precision,” said Corvin Huber, CEO of REMOS Aircraft. “We are in the process of making a safe airplane even safer.”

David Gustafson

Good update

Thanks for keeping us up to date on this David. I'm glad to hear that at least the pilot survived the accident. I hate to say it, but this type of thing has been happening in the world of glider flying for some time. Thankfully, glider pilots have learned from their mistakes and have a widespread practice to correct it. Perhaps the best way to make sure that you haven't missed a critical step in your preflight checklist is to conduct a "positive control check" (PCC) after assembly and before takeoff.

The Soaring Safety Foundation has a great video demonstrating the why and how of a PCC. As a CFI, I think watching it should be mandatory for anyone who flies gliders, LSAs, experimentals, ultralights or any other aircraft that is normally stored by folding or detaching the wings.

Although I hate to hear about mishaps like this one, I still firmly believe that Remos has the right idea in designing an aircraft with folding wings. The ability to store the aircraft in a trailer, garage or other small space is simply invaluable. Good checklist discipline and habits like always conducing a positive control check will ensure that pilots can safely take advantage of Remos' great design.

Wow

That sounds like a great trip, I'm jealous! I definitely believe that the CTSW has been at the top so long for good reasons. It definitely has the fuel capacity to be a cross country machine. I'd love to see a market where several types of LSAs lead a large pack of companies. A little good-natured competition will help everyone stay sharp in their designs. I think I'm just going to have to make sure to spend some time flying both the Flight Design and the Remos planes and see how I feel about each. :-)

>6,000nm Cross Country in an LSA

I flew from CT to OR (via the Mexican border) and back last year with my buddy in his Flight Design CTSW LSA--and it was a blast. It took six days of flying each way (because of "weather episodes", afternoon turbulence in the mountains, and avid site seeing), but it was definitely a trip to remember.

We met up with a pilot ferrying a Remos from Arkansas to California, and we struck up a camaraderie immediately. We flew in loose formation through the Rockies & Sierra Nevadas, and both airplanes thrived with their Rotax 912 engines. The larger capacity fuel tanks of the Flight Design CTSW enabled us to fly much further than the Remos--which was a bit irritating when our new travel partner had to stop to refuel more often. The other feature of the Flight Design CTSW which I preferred was the unique cantilevered (strutless) wing design--which made ingress/egress easier & provided much better better photo opportunities. The cabin of the Flight Design CTSW also felt much more comfortable (wider) for the long cross country trip we had embarked upon.

We split up in Vegas where the Remos continued Westward into a 47-54kt headwind & nasty mountain turbulence that was so bad that when our new friend arrived in CA, he discovered cracked paint (stress fractures?) around where the strut joins the fuselage... Our trip ended much better than his, I guess, because he said he'd never ferry cross-country solo ever again...

As for our trip in the Flight Design CTSW, I'd do it again tomorrow!

Remos GX

I am a novice pilot training in Denver in a Remos. As an experienced pilot what do you think of the aircraft, and what is your opinion of of a LSA license. I personally think for the cost and fun; it can't be beat.

Training in a Remos

I did my Sport Pilot license at SportPlanes of Florida in April 09. Bought a used G3/600 that month. It's a joy to fly and the envy of all but the die-hard curmudgeons on the field. As for a Sport Pilot license, I can go to any airfield that it makes sense to fly to, when it makes sense to fly a light aircraft. By that I mean that you'd be foolish to fly a Piper Cub (another LSA) to Atlanta's Hartsfield in bad weather at night. I'm legally not allowed to do any of those things with a Sport Pilot ticket and an LSA. I'm a very happy Day VFR pilot. I can fly into and through Class B airspace and take 5-600 mile trips in a morning. (Augusta, GA to Cape Girardeau, MO at max gross with full fuel tanks, a pit stop in Chattanooga and five hours in the seats with my wife).
I'm faster than a 172 while doing it! (105 KIAS all day long). And I fuel my aircraft legally with 93-octane unleaded no-ethanol gasoline at around $3.50/gallon. The Remos is far from cheap in construction. Paint cracks and chips on the fiberglass landing gear struts are just that-- paint cracks because the gear flexes. I have no paint stressed areas on fuselage, wings or tail. If fact the aircraft exceeds the stress ratings of normal category aircraft.

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